Part 1: Social engineering, malware, and the future of cybersecurity in AI
Social engineering, cyberattacks, and the fog of war - all topics covered in this interview with the VP of Security and Privacy at Google DeepMind. Hannah Fr...
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Social engineering, cyberattacks, and the fog of war - all topics covered in this interview with the VP of Security and Privacy at Google DeepMind. Hannah Fry and Four Flynn take us behind the scenes of Operation Aurora, the monumental 2009 attack on Google that forever changed the landscape of cybersecurity. They discuss the defender's dilemma, the constant battle between attackers and defenders in the digital world, and how AI can potentially help mitigate some of the most complex vulnerabilities.
As Hannah said, there was just too much to fit into one episode, so keep an eye on your feed for part 2. If you’re worried about missing it, why not subscribe and turn on notifications for new episodes. Until next time!
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00:00 Intro
02:00 Project Aurora
20:48 Defenders dilemma
21:22 Zero Day vulnerabilities
23:49 Kill chain
25:39 LLM vulnerabilities
27:00 Malware and polymorphism
37:00 Big Sleep
45:00 Using AI to fix vulnerabilities (CodeMender)
51:10 Next time
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Further reading:
CodeMender: https://deepmind.google/discover/blog/introducing-codemender-an-ai-agent-for-code-security/
Cybersecurity at Google: https://blog.google/technology/safety-security/ai-security-frontier-strategy-tools/
Threat intelligence report: https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/threat-intelligence/adversarial-misuse-generative-ai
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Thanks to everyone who made this possible, including but not limited to:
Presenter: Professor Hannah Fry
Series Producer: Dan Hardoon
Editor: Rami Tzabar
Commissioner & Producer: Emma Yousif
Music composition: Eleni Shaw
Audio engineer: Richard Courtice
Video Editor: Bilal Merhi
Audio Engineer: Perry Rogantin
Visual Identity and Design: Rob Ashley
Commissioned by Google DeepMind
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